The cars and bikes thread!

[tribe125]

I owned a P5B , only mine was dark grey with red leather, such a classy looking car, I loved it. Is that a Blower Bentley? Rare metal if it is.

Majestic car, the P5B. You lucky fella.

It was my dream car, when I was of an impressionable age, along with the occasional Bristol and Alvis. The Rovers were quite common round here, usually owned by well-to-do farmers and retired military types. There were several P5Bs at the show. A couple of years ago, there was one that had been converted to run on nitrous oxide. Not in the best possible taste, perhaps, but impressive.

Yes, that was a Blower Bentley, with a racing history, as most of them have. It had a digital timer on the passenger side, so is presumably still used in competition. I spotted another in blue, and there was a similar Lagonda. God knows what these things are worth. They make the ‘poster’ Ferraris of the 60s and 70s look almost disposable.

[mlcor]

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...360-modena-39/

So, who’s stepping up and getting this former dream car of mine? @mlcor? It’s even a proper manual, and damn if I don’t say it, the 360 shape has aged really well (far better than more modern Ferrari designs will, I imagine).

Also available with unlimited headroom:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...360-spider-34/

Well, it's definitely a better bet with the manual from that era--those early F1 transmissions were problematic. I just don't know if I would buy any older Ferrari unless I was a good mechanic myself--maintenance costs alone (not even thinking about repairs) are going to cost a fortune. I've never driven a 360, but my guess is it would be about as fast as a Honda Civic from today (albeit much more beautiful).

Last year I had to briefly drive a 308 (think Magnum, PI, for those who aren't up on Ferrari nomenclature). It was nerve wracking, since it wasn't mine, but also...not fun. Manual transmission was very finicky, no power steering did not make parking much fun, and not particularly fast, either. And this particular one seemed to be in excellent condition, so it's not like it was a beater.

The modern ones may not be classic, but they are thoroughly modern--excellent transmissions, good electronics (gasp!), and quite reliable. New ones come with seven years of maintenance included, and full extended warranties are available for the first four years of the car's life, and after that, you can get extended engine and transmission warranties for another ten years or more. That says something about Ferrari's confidence in their current cars.

[Raza]

Well, it's definitely a better bet with the manual from that era--those early F1 transmissions were problematic. I just don't know if I would buy any older Ferrari unless I was a good mechanic myself--maintenance costs alone (not even thinking about repairs) are going to cost a fortune. I've never driven a 360, but my guess is it would be about as fast as a Honda Civic from today (albeit much more beautiful).

Last year I had to briefly drive a 308 (think Magnum, PI, for those who aren't up on Ferrari nomenclature). It was nerve wracking, since it wasn't mine, but also...not fun. Manual transmission was very finicky, no power steering did not make parking much fun, and not particularly fast, either. And this particular one seemed to be in excellent condition, so it's not like it was a beater.

The modern ones may not be classic, but they are thoroughly modern--excellent transmissions, good electronics (gasp!), and quite reliable. New ones come with seven years of maintenance included, and full extended warranties are available for the first four years of the car's life, and after that, you can get extended engine and transmission warranties for another ten years or more. That says something about Ferrari's confidence in their current cars.

I didn’t know that about their warranties.

But I’d still rather have one of the 911s that still comes with a manual. Targa4S sounds lovely to me and is 30K less than the NSX Type S. Not that I have money for either right now.

[mlcor]

I didn’t know that about their warranties.

But I’d still rather have one of the 911s that still comes with a manual. Targa4S sounds lovely to me and is 30K less than the NSX Type S. Not that I have money for either right now.

For me the problem with 911s (and Caymans/Boxsters) is their ubiquity. I’ve driven a 911S on a track (albeit not at full bore), and I’ve autocrossed a Cayman. Incredibly solid and capable cars. But they are all over the place here.


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[Samanator]

Yup, late '50's Caddy for sure. Tail fins to die for.

Yep my Dad had one that my mother hated. So big and so much stuff protruding out it was very hard to walk around one in a garage without banging into something. Possibly the only car that had a grill on the front and back.

[Samanator]

Well, it's definitely a better bet with the manual from that era--those early F1 transmissions were problematic. I just don't know if I would buy any older Ferrari unless I was a good mechanic myself--maintenance costs alone (not even thinking about repairs) are going to cost a fortune. I've never driven a 360, but my guess is it would be about as fast as a Honda Civic from today (albeit much more beautiful).

Last year I had to briefly drive a 308 (think Magnum, PI, for those who aren't up on Ferrari nomenclature). It was nerve wracking, since it wasn't mine, but also...not fun. Manual transmission was very finicky, no power steering did not make parking much fun, and not particularly fast, either. And this particular one seemed to be in excellent condition, so it's not like it was a beater.

The modern ones may not be classic, but they are thoroughly modern--excellent transmissions, good electronics (gasp!), and quite reliable. New ones come with seven years of maintenance included, and full extended warranties are available for the first four years of the car's life, and after that, you can get extended engine and transmission warranties for another ten years or more. That says something about Ferrari's confidence in their current cars.

My brother and I co owned a Dino in the 80's and Ferrari gate shifters were a good case for automatics. Three seconds between gears was speed shifting one of these. I've driven two other Ferarri's with them and only a pretty beat 1975 Chevy Nova with a 350 and a four speed of the early 70"s variety (Test driving for a friend who could not drive a stick)is the only one that was worse than the Ferrari gate shifters. That incudes a few late seventies Renault ratchet clutch wagons just to show how low a bar this is. Read any review of a gate shifter Ferrari and it's almost a standard item to hit on in any Ferrari with one.

[geoffbot]

For me the problem with 911s (and Caymans/Boxsters) is their ubiquity. I’ve driven a 911S on a track (albeit not at full bore), and I’ve autocrossed a Cayman. Incredibly solid and capable cars. But they are all over the place here.


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Only flashy gits care about ubiquity

I proudly own the most common brand of watch and car! Because they're great. And because I can't afford a ferrari or a journe

[Raza]

For me the problem with 911s (and Caymans/Boxsters) is their ubiquity. I’ve driven a 911S on a track (albeit not at full bore), and I’ve autocrossed a Cayman. Incredibly solid and capable cars. But they are all over the place here.


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Yeah, maybe, but that is a champagne problem for sure. I think you can get over it. I believe in you.

[mlcor]

Only flashy gits care about ubiquity

I proudly own the most common brand of watch and car! Because they're great. And because I can't afford a ferrari or a journe

Guilty as charged?


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[mlcor]

Yeah, maybe, but that is a champagne problem for sure. I think you can get over it. I believe in you.

I have owned a Porsche, though—I had a Panamera 4s, which I loved.


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