The cars and bikes thread!

[gnuyork]

I’ve given thought to the MX-5, but I can’t help but feel like it would be a step down from the Z4 and 987 Boxster I had previously. They’re great cars, but it feels like moving backwards, you know?

test drive one, especially one with Bilsteins.

[geoffbot]

Searching for a manual car where the other transmission they sell is a marketing department manual (i.e. a dual clutch or other auto clutch transmission) is infuriating. See a car you like, in a color you like, at a reasonable price, and it's only 30 miles from you? I'll go check it.....oh, these people don't know what a manual is.

No autotrader? My app has manual or auto filters. I certainly presume that means what you and I know it ti actually mean as opposed to what somewhere like to claim

[Raza]

No autotrader? My app has manual or auto filters. I certainly presume that means what you and I know it ti actually mean as opposed to what somewhere like to claim

The problem is that when you filter to manuals only, ACTs show up because people list them as being manual transmissions. So the majority of your responses are actually dual clutches or the like.

[happyscrappyheropup]

The problem is that when you filter to manuals only, ACTs show up because people list them as being manual transmissions. So the majority of your responses are actually dual clutches or the like.

For every 10 listed as a manual, only 1 or 2 actually are 3 pedal cars. It is annoying.

Have you looked at M4s? With a couple miles on them they are sub $40k. 2015 2 owner clean carfax 44k miles $39k - https://tinyurl.com/tvyye7r

[Raza]

For every 10 listed as a manual, only 1 or 2 actually are 3 pedal cars. It is annoying.

Have you looked at M4s? With a couple miles on them they are sub $40k. 2015 2 owner clean carfax 44k miles $39k - https://tinyurl.com/tvyye7r

The M4 is actually the car that sparked that post originally. I was looking at convertibles and nearly every one was a DCT; only found one true manual. And I got quite miffed, because I saw this white one that looked fantastic and I wanted it and then it was a DCT.

[geoffbot]

The problem is that when you filter to manuals only, ACTs show up because people list them as being manual transmissions. So the majority of your responses are actually dual clutches or the like.

I guess your market is quite different to ours. This is not a problem on my autotrader - I have just checked.

[Raza]

I guess your market is quite different to ours. This is not a problem on my autotrader - I have just checked.

Very few cars are sold with true manuals here. Other than my own, I can't remember the last time I saw a manual car.

[geoffbot]

Ours is moving that way.

[happyscrappyheropup]

I guess your market is quite different to ours. This is not a problem on my autotrader - I have just checked.

It's not just Autotrader here. I use cars.com, cargurus.com, autotrader.com and truecar.com when shopping. They all have issues with sellers and dealers marking sequential transmissions as manuals.

Very few cars are sold with true manuals here. Other than my own, I can't remember the last time I saw a manual car.

I have been shopping for a 997.1/.2 911 S for the past few months. I've driven almost a dozen cars, each of them were manual transmission (not all were C2S, some were base C2, 1 base C4). I haven't driven any M4s, but I've seen at least 6 3 pedal cars I've seen in my search for a 911. Have you looked at C7 Corvettes? Lots of 7 speed 3 pedal cars out there for reasonable money if you're looking for a hot 2 seater.

[happyscrappyheropup]

Very few cars are sold with true manuals here. Other than my own, I can't remember the last time I saw a manual car.

I did a search on '15-18 manual trans M4s under 200 miles from my house. Several were marked incorrectly, but these were confirmed by pics. A mix of coupes and convertibles...

https://tinyurl.com/upqsuw3 M4 manual

https://tinyurl.com/umaupk5 M4 manual

https://tinyurl.com/vnjqlou M4 manual

https://tinyurl.com/yx3hayzs M4 manual

https://tinyurl.com/rprffkd M4 manual

https://tinyurl.com/rd7xz94 M4 manual