The cars and bikes thread!

[Seriously]

In reality:









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[Samanator]

Any of you guys ever own a 997? It's recently come to my attention that they're pretty affordable, and comparable in price to the 964 I originally wanted.

If did or do have one, which model? Which transmission? If you had a coupe, was the sunroof enough to make you forget that it isn't a convertible? If you had a convertible, was the open air enough to make you not miss the sexy ass 911 roofline?





I mean, I know all the usual pitfalls. It's too beautiful, the engine is in the wrong place, the clutch is really, really heavy, it's too big, it has too many sets. But the 911's always been tops for me, at least for my adult life. And the 997 appeals to me massively, of the modern 911s (993 and beyond). 997 seems like the kind of car you could buy for the rest of your life. Though I also feel that way about the 964.

A 911 was always a grail car for me. My sole 911 was my 2009 Cabriolet Carrera 4S (997) white with the red clay top and interior. Amazing car but given how little I drove it it was very expensive to maintain. These are also known for the bearing issues. Each generation ups the performance bar. The air cooled thing is just that...a thing. They are really loud and not just the noises from the exhaust. The water cooled cars have been much better performers and the ride and handling gains are worth it. As a sole car I would not buy one given the cost to maintain unless it is something you can take on some of the load yourself. When cars start to get 10 plus years you need to start replacing everything in (hoses, brake lines....)them. I went through this over a 2 year period with the 2002 XK8. I have a friend who just bought a mint 2014 911 and even just five years old the maintenance has him questioning the decision. It will be even more for an older one. For comparison my 2016 FType I have not spent a single penny on maintenance since it is covered through 2021. The 911 handles maybe a hair better, but not that much better that I would take on the cost of having one again.

I cannot find a picture of the car anywhere, but this one is close including the wheels. I m not certain if that is the clay red interior and as I said mine had the matching top not black like this one.

[Raza]

Doing a bit of research into cars of the 40s and came across the Ferrari 166 MM. Oh my good god, this car is gorgeous. Remember when Ferrari made beautiful cars?

[Raza]

I don't really think of cars as starting until the 1960s, but damn.



Any of you know what kind of transmission it had? I assume a 4 speed manual, like the Porsche 356.

Which was quite the looker as well:

[geoffbot]

Doing a bit of research into cars of the 40s and came across the Ferrari 166 MM. Oh my good god, this car is gorgeous. Remember when Ferrari made beautiful cars?

The f430 is, imo, the last beautiful ferrari.

[geoffbot]

Looking at 435i convertibles - so close to being able to afford one!



Then I discovered this gem - 3 liter 3 series hybrid 302bhp +54bhp from the electric hitting 60 in 5.3 seconds. Only 2.4 miles on electric only which isn't ideal - 10 or so and this might be the perfect engine. Why are there only 4 on autotrader?! And why didn't they put this engine in the 4 series so I could have it in my convertible?

[Seriously]

I don't really think of cars as starting until the 1960s, but damn.

Mmmmmm top speed of 120mph (where its name is derived from) and drums all round - nice until you want to stop.

The later 140 was the first Jag to have the option of a 3 speed auto box

It was a 4 speed manual afaik


How about a Daimler Dart? (AKA SP250)

[tribe125]

Doing a bit of research into cars of the 40s and came across the Ferrari 166 MM. Oh my good god, this car is gorgeous. Remember when Ferrari made beautiful cars?

That is nice.

For practicality, I might take one of these -

[boatme99]

It's dead. It's off the twig, it's kicked the bucket, it's ceased to be!
The Camaro is gasping it's last breath. Again.
GM announced production will cease the end of its current iteration in 2023.
Sales just suck. They can't meet the Mustang or Challenger numbers, so out it goes.

[Raza]

The f430 is, imo, the last beautiful ferrari.

That's probably right.