Food

[watchdaddy1]

Mecican food, my favorite. Mmmm

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[geoffbot]

Mecican food, my favorite. Mmmm

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I like Mexican food a lot too

[drunken monkey]

Good grief.

Your post.

Please do. It's not as hard as it seems, but I rarely do it. Normally we just go out for sushi when we get the craving. But I do like using fresh, never frozen seafood, as was the case for the shrimp, king crab, rainbow trout, and yellowfin tuna I used last night.

To which I remarked

FYI
Sashimi grade fish is often frozen.
Insisting on "fresh" is a little misguided.

My "from out of nowhere" comment is because your two statements don't really jive.
If you've ever eaten sushi at a restuarant, you would have eaten frozen fish.

I shouldn't have responded to the beef thing because I was talking about Sashimi.

I probably shouldn't have even bothered addressing the concept of "fresh" meat as it's not fish (not what I was talking about but you included it as a means to support your position) and thus not the same. Vegetables are also not fish.

The correct response to my pointing out that Sashimi grade fish is often frozen shoyld have been:

really? Why is that? So what is usually frozen and what isn't? I mean, how much of it is frozen?

That would've lead to a discussion about the myth of "fresh" (as in non-frozen) Sashimi and how it all relates to food hygiene.

[Der Amf]

Ugh tapatalk, once you're in a thread, you're never out it.

Mmm, to my eye this exchange is unlikely to go anywhere interesting or rewarding for anyone, so can I put in a request that it gently gets dropped?

Very tangentially: what cut of beef goes into steak tartare? I'm guessing fillet? I've only had it once, and enjoyed it, and felt I was enjoying it more because of the skill of the chefs than because of the innate quality of the beef

[CanadianStraps]

Good grief.

I love how you're the one that's fed up.

Anyway, you've addressed basically everything other than where I apparently contested the fact that sushi grade fish is often frozen. Help me out with that one.

I know we're all internet experts, so it's tough to come to conclusions when it's invincible keyboard god vs invincible keyboard god, but I'd at least prefer to just play with the facts.

[geoffbot]

I'm just glad that people are so passionate about food.

[drunken monkey]

And many other times it is not. I don't see how wanting to eat fresh food is misguided, I must be misunderstanding you.

It's not just for fish/sushi. Better burger joints are fresh never frozen, and so on et cetera.

and once again, I was talking about Sashimi, as Geoff was talking about sushi.
Let's go back to the beginning.

Insisting on eating fresh (sashimi) is misguided.
There, does that missing (implied in the original) word change anything for you?

Perhaps you should Google food standards with regards to sashimi before replying.

[CanadianStraps]

Very tangentially: what cut of beef goes into steak tartare? I'm guessing fillet? I've only had it once, and enjoyed it, and felt I was enjoying it more because of the skill of the chefs than because of the innate quality of the beef

That would be most first guesses, but its actually wrong. We'll, it doesn't have to be, but it should be. Excellent cuts for steak should be used as such. Excellent tartare should be made from lean beef. Great steaks are certainly not. Picking the highest graded beef, but and inexpensive cut would be ideal for tartare. But it is not 'easy' to make and should only be attempted with great caution. Nothing mechanical should be present: don't make tartare that was prepped in a processor, a sharp knife is all that is required.

[CanadianStraps]

and once again, I was talking about Sashimi, as Geoff was talking about sushi.
Let's go back to the beginning.

Insisting on eating fresh (sashimi) is misguided.
There, does that missing (implied in the original) word change anything for you?

You're still wrong, and you're avoiding my last question. I am not misguided about eating fresh sashimi. I've done it many times. If a restaurant uses fish that was flash frozen to kill bacteria or enhance superpowers, that's understood. I've eaten it that way many times as well. I've never contested that happens, despite your insistence that I did or have.

You don't have to be snide either. We're just having a conversation.

[drunken monkey]

You're still wrong, and you're avoiding my last question.

Poor reading on my part.
You were contesting my comment that insisting on fresh is misguided, not that freezing fish is a routine practice.

I'm guessing you didn't do that google.