The cars and bikes thread!

[geoffbot]

Mercedes' engine numbers haven't meant much in several years now.

Or bmw. My 328 has a 2l engine. As does the 320. And 330.

[Raza]

I think you have drunk far too much Kool-Aid from the Audi bowl. Based on what I've seen if you substitute Volvo for Audi for European cars I would agree with you.

I don’t even consider Volvo a European car anymore.

[Raza]

Or bmw. My 328 has a 2l engine. As does the 320. And 330.

Yup. I think BMW may have started making up numbers before Mercedes did, actually.

[tribe125]

I don’t even consider Volvo a European car anymore.

As European as Jaguar Land Rover, surely?

[Seriously]

It picked up a phantom braking trigger this morning , there were no vehicles involved.

I was coming slight left on a 135degree bend.... and it triggered .... I think a wall on the right hand side spooked it momentarily

Forgot to say you can tell it’s a 1.5 when you push it , it doesn’t sound nice at all.

I did like the ‘enhanced reality satnav’ (option) on the previous courtesy merc I had a couple of months ago, that had the bigger screens (option), when you came up to a junction you had to follow the screen flipped to front facing camera (so complete reality) with an arrow superimposed on the screen.
It was quite cool.

[Raza]

As European as Jaguar Land Rover, surely?

Being owned by a private Indian company and a “private” Chinese company are two different things in my book.

[gnuyork]

Being owned by a private Indian company and a “private” Chinese company are two different things in my book.

But being owned is surely different than manufacturing as usual? The cars are still manufactured in their respective countries? I'm asking. I don't know.

I'm curious because one of my loves (Lotus) is currently owned by the same company that owns Volvo. But I believe they are still made in England by English hands.

And they just announced an electric hyper car (yawn).

[Dimman]

Yup. I think BMW may have started making up numbers before Mercedes did, actually.

BMW did that way back in the 70s.

[Raza]

But being owned is surely different than manufacturing as usual? The cars are still manufactured in their respective countries? I'm asking. I don't know.

I'm curious because one of my loves (Lotus) is currently owned by the same company that owns Volvo. But I believe they are still made in England by English hands.

And they just announced an electric hyper car (yawn).

I promise you, I don’t have a logical explanation for it. It’s a feel thing. Volvo feels like a Chinese car company now. I can’t possibly explain it with facts or anything that would make sense. Volvo is still made in Sweden and designed in Sweden, but something about Chinese ownership makes me feel icky the way other outside ownership doesn’t.

[Raza]

BMW did that way back in the 70s.

Really? Then I think they win the game.