yeah true as I said early was looking from the link at more modern ones as when they was saying way back and only talking ten and twenty years amused me as they are still modern to me
and would not so much know which ones are discon as much ..mean have used that line to sell some like the recraft
but just was curious to see if some of the modern ones I thought was still being made weren't from the list on the link I thought some of them was still