I get that and I think you and I are very similar in this. There are certain projects that don't add up for me though. Like firm cheese. On the other hand, I only eat homemade ketchup now and I do make some cheese. It's Mrs. Ks birthday weekend. She specifically asked for smoked meat sandwiches for her home cooked birthday meal so I have a cross rib roast that I cured in the fridge developing a pellicle right now. Tonight it'll be smoked and tomorrow I'll steam it will making wood fired bagels.