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    Quote Originally Posted by mlcor View Post
    Or Aston Martin.

    I have a collector BMW sports car (the Z4 is going to be a future classic, for sure).
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyB View Post
    Everyone we know that has a Subaru loves them. We got an Outback a few months ago as the family hauler (otherwise known as my car) and it's been great.
    I considered one of those, but a CVT would drive me nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raza View Post
    I considered one of those, but a CVT would drive me nuts.
    I've found, through test driving with my kids, that there is a huge difference in CVTs. For example, the one in my son's Impreza isn't so horrible; however, the ones I've had in Nissans were wretched--it was like driving a sewing machine. Ugh. None of them can match a decent manual or even a conventional automatic, though.

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    There's no STI hatch anymore.

    But I'm only slightly considering the XC90, and the reason I am hesitant is because of the Chinese ownership. If it were still under Ford, I would be fine, but I worry about the things I've seen from Chinese cars ending up in a $50,000 Volvo. Paying through the nose for the privilege of dying in a horrific crash that would have been survivable in any other car.
    Land Rover is owned by an Indian company...

    Seriously though there are crash test that you can look at which and the XC90 did well in them. And it is a Volvo so it will probably run forever.

    http://jalopnik.com/the-2016-volvo-xc90-monstered-americas-newest-crash-tes-1731483888

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raza View Post
    I considered one of those, but a CVT would drive me nuts.
    The CVT in the Outback is the best I've experienced and better than most automatics for that matter. It's nearly impossible to tell that it is a CVT. It is significantly better than the CVT in our Accord Hybrid.

    I do miss shifting gears in my old BMW, but for the typical driving I do these days, I'm more than pleased with the Outback. Adaptive cruise control is one of the best things ever when you are stuck in stop and go traffic on the turnpike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyB View Post
    Adaptive cruise control is one of the best things ever when you are stuck in stop and go traffic on the turnpike.

    I agree. I use mine all the time when stuck in a long line of traffic as it gives me far better fuel consumption than I could ever achieve. Just switch it off when you want to DRIVE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyB View Post
    The CVT in the Outback is the best I've experienced and better than most automatics for that matter. It's nearly impossible to tell that it is a CVT. It is significantly better than the CVT in our Accord Hybrid.

    I do miss shifting gears in my old BMW, but for the typical driving I do these days, I'm more than pleased with the Outback. Adaptive cruise control is one of the best things ever when you are stuck in stop and go traffic on the turnpike.

    How do you like the accord hybrid? I'm considering that after the Audi/VW debacle. One thing I like about the A3TDI is it gets excellent gas mileage while still having very good power (or torque rather). But damn if I'm not put off by the scandal...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samanator View Post
    I don't see Jaguar on this list?
    That is cause Jag owners like way to exciting lives to be lawyers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 93EXCivic View Post
    Land Rover is owned by an Indian company...

    Seriously though there are crash test that you can look at which and the XC90 did well in them. And it is a Volvo so it will probably run forever.

    http://jalopnik.com/the-2016-volvo-xc90-monstered-americas-newest-crash-tes-1731483888

    Fair point about crash tests. I still have some ideological issues with buying a car from a Chinese-owned car company.

    As for Tata owning Land Rover, they're a major manufacturer who seems to be a hands-off cash injector. I'm okay with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnuyork View Post
    How do you like the accord hybrid? I'm considering that after the Audi/VW debacle. One thing I like about the A3TDI is it gets excellent gas mileage while still having very good power (or torque rather). But damn if I'm not put off by the scandal...
    We are really enjoying the Accord Hybrid. My wife's commute racks up about 20,000 miles a year, so we were looking for a relatively efficient car. When we bought it, I was hoping to get a TDI, but my wife didn't like the idea of a diesel and the Accord Hybrid had just been released. We test drove it and that was it. It's a comfortable car and the mileage has been excellent. I believe we are averaging around 45 mpg over the past two years. I drove it 20 miles to work the other day and the computer was showing 57 mpg.

    It's a comfortable car and the power is decent. My wife had one of the original Civic Hybrids and I had a Prius back when I was commuting a ridiculous distance. The Accord is a huge step forward in power and comfort compared to those. The CVT is a bit rubbery at times, but as a commuter car, that isn't a big deal.

    The biggest complaint we have is the miniscule trunk space. Coming from an A3, that might be the toughest adjustment to make. That is the main reason we went with the Outback for the family car. I'm not a SUV person and there are so few wagons offered in the US these days.

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