The cars and bikes thread!

[scottjc]

Yes, at one point it was tuned to 319 whp, but has since been dialed back a bit. Still scoots though.

319 whp is around 427 bhp!!!

[Raza]

I think I've posted my "fun car" here before. Although not in this forum, I guess.



It has an aftermarket supercharger, exhaust, and some custom paint in the interior and engine compartment.






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Elise is the only sports car that could tempt me from my Z4, really. Still the best car I've ever driven, and that includes the Ferrari 430.

[mlcor]

Elise is the only sports car that could tempt me from my Z4, really. Still the best car I've ever driven, and that includes the Ferrari 430.

Well, you're one up on me, I've never driven a Ferrari.


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[Raza]

Well, you're one up on me, I've never driven a Ferrari.


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They make you feel special, but I'm afraid these newer ones don't feel all that special. I got more satisfaction wringing out my Z4 than I did driving the 430 on the track.

[mlcor]

They make you feel special, but I'm afraid these newer ones don't feel all that special. I got more satisfaction wringing out my Z4 than I did driving the 430 on the track.

Too much electronics, not enough visceral feel? I drove a McLaren 650S earlier this year, that's the way it felt...


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[Raza]

Too much electronics, not enough visceral feel? I drove a McLaren 650S earlier this year, that's the way it felt...


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Yup, exactly that. Like the car's computer wants to do everything; the driver is almost an unwelcome liability.

[93EXCivic]

Yup, exactly that. Like the car's computer wants to do everything; the driver is almost an unwelcome liability.

I got to drive a GTR once. Same thing. The most fun I have had driving a car was a Triumph Spitfire with a tuned Ford V6 up front. The headers tried to set your feet on fire. There was zero weather protection, zero padding on the seat. The carb needed work cause it would stall at idle but holy crap it was fun.

That or a 600hp Civic. That thing tried to kill you most of the time.


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[GaryF]

They make you feel special, but I'm afraid these newer ones don't feel all that special. I got more satisfaction wringing out my Z4 than I did driving the 430 on the track.

I've had a few Elises and I've driven a 430 but only on a track (birthday present). The Ferarri was fun but not in a million years would I want one for the road. Even on the track, the dominant sensation was one of limitless, flat grip and it would take a much better driver than me to exploit the upper limits of what it can do.

The Elise is just a joy. Even the most basic, stock examples are pretty close to driving perfection. Extra power is nice but it's the delicacy and synaptic handling that are addictive.
A big heavy super car- with all the electronic driving aids needed to harness its power and keep it on the road- just can't deliver the poise, agility and fun of a proper, lightweight, well-sorted sportscar.

Love them.

[mlcor]

For me, the main thing about having the supercharger in the Elise is that it means you don't need to be above 6000 rpm in every turn. The additional power at lower rpm means you have more choices.

[gnuyork]

For me, the main thing about having the supercharger in the Elise is that it means you don't need to be above 6000 rpm in every turn. The additional power at lower rpm means you have more choices.

Exactly.