now we have had many conversations on this thought but have recently tried to sell several 3133 and even with the discontinued movement making it harder to get parts so should be more sort after it is still not .. where the 3017 is still hitting peak after peak of highs .

so is it simple down to the moon watch side of things that makes it so ... as can't really see any other reason for the one ploughing long and one shooting off to the stars apart from the moon angle ..


so whats your take ?