well the ladies seiko arrived .. guess the seller was not happy I won it for £1.99 paid more for the postage. it was just dump unwrapped in a padded envelope ..

so have took the bracelet of clean and repaired it , it's not the original seiko but see a nice early decent looking one , have found a crown for it and it winds and sets but is running 20 mins slow so far and the movement feels loose in the case so guess I got to open it and regulate it and secure it .